Three Monks And A Chump

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Mrkay
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Three Monks And A Chump

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This is a versatile build consisting of three rogues using mostly fists and rocks, plus one mage. The original idea was to make a party that could go toe-to-toe in most fights, while also being extremely good at strafe fighting. The build has solid damage output, high survivability, and exploits an interface feature to let your front line rogue/monks use two shields while fighting.

The Party:

Front Line 1 and 2
Human Rogue
Traits: Evasive, Fist Fighter
Stat Allocation: +6 Dex, +4 Vit
Skill Allocation: +2 Dodge, +2 Unarmed Combat

Back Line 1
Minotaur Rogue
Traits: Head Hunter, Aggressive (or Skilled)
Stat Allocation: +6 Str, +4 Vit
Skill Allocation: +1 (+4) Throwing Weapons

Back Line 2
Insectoid Mage
Traits: Strong Mind, Skilled (or Aura)
Stat Allocation: +6 Will, +4 Vit
Skill Allocation: +2 Spellcraft, +4 Ice Magic (+3 Ice Magic)

Discussion:
The front line monks survive thanks to high Evasion. Use Lizardmen if you want to min/max for 2 more Dex (and therefore 4 more Evasion) at the cost of 1 Skill Point. Personally, I like Baldguy and Bigears as my front line, so I went with Human. Putting the last 4 points in Vit instead of Str is the difference between +2 Attack Power (Str) or +10HP per level (Vit). The extra HP only become more and more worth it as you level up.

Evasive and Fist Fighter seem optimal. The only thing that comes close is Skilled, but I don't think it's worth it. Those 3 skill points can't replace a straight up 6 Attack Power, and 7 Evasion is just money in the bank.

Unarmed has two huge advantages for an Evasion-based front line character. First, the skill tree itself has +Dex stat increases and at lvl 30 you get the excellent +20 Evasion. This means you can keep cranking your offensive skill, and your defense will continue to get better. Put 2 points in Dodge for the +5 Evasion and then, I suggest, never worry about that tree again. Fists all the way.

Second, you can use two shields, one in each hand, get the Evasion bonus from both, and still fight. When you left click on an item, that item gets picked up and replaces the cursor. You can then right click on something to activate it, with the item still picked up. The trick is:
1. Equip a shield in both hands.
2. Left click one of the shields to pick it up with the cursor.
3. Right click the now bare fist to attack.
4. Left click to put the shield back in the hand.

You lose the Evasion bonus for the amount of time it takes to attack, but otherwise you walk around with two shields, all the time.

For the back line, Throwing Weapons + Minotaur is lovely, because you can't miss with ranged weapons. As other people have pointed out plenty of times, this makes Dex a dump stat for a ranged character. Also, ranged attack trees don't have quite as good Attack Power-to-Skill Point ratios as melee attack trees, and the Thrown Weapons tree has +Str as its main stat boost, for that extra bit of damage.

The Mage is there for utility. Grab the first two points in Spellcraft for the +1 Will early, because the Energy gains from Will are not retroactive. Decide how high up the Spellcraft tree you want to go. I suggest 2 or 6, personally, but if you're going to go to 8 or higher then get to 8 fast. I picked the Ice tree because the first attack ability is an AoE, and the Frost Bolt can freeze. Lightening hit hards and Invisibility can be nice, but Invis also costs a ton and is really frickin' expensive, Energy-wise. Also, the Ice tree is the only attack tree with +Will in it. The other three have the other three (basically useless) stats.

On the whole, the party is very fast, and owing to the high Evasion of the front line, can stand face to face with most enemies and not come away feeling to bad about it. Below is a spoiler for a room that you can grind for XP as long as your food lasts, and to practice either going toe-to-toe, or strafe fighting.
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The prison room with skeleton warriors on, I think it's Level 4, that's tied to the Scroll Room? Those skeletons keep spawning as long as you haven't solved the puzzle. I spent a whole level killing skeletons. Could have gone longer, but I felt it was enough. Also, free shields if you happen to need 'em.
Have fun, and comments always welcome!

Mr.Kay.
crimsonjoe
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Re: Three Monks And A Chump

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I just completed the game with this party makeup. Some thoughts:

* It's nice not to worry about encumberance, or bothering to search for weapons or heavy armor.

* That being said, it's makes me a sad panda to discover a secret, only to find an item that I can't use at all. If I were to rerun this game, I'd go with one fighter for the frontline and an evasion rogue for the other spot.

* The mage started out woefully behind the others- but once I had enough ice points to learn the icebolt spell, things improved. When frozen, you can hit an opponent several times quickly with unarmed

Great party concept- glad you suggested it.
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Merethif
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Re: Three Monks And A Chump

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I like this party concept. It suits well my custom portraits made of characters from Street Fighter. I have decided to replace Skilled with Evasive on my Insectoid Yoga Master ;-) but other characters follow your original concept entirely.

Actually I'm at the beginning of level 4 now (Archives) and characters are at level 5 or 6. Good so far.
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Minotaur rogue in second row is indeed very enjoyable character and really rocks with those shurikens! I can't wait for Throwing Axes :-D
I just wish there were more Lurker sets available and a second copy of Pit Fighter Gauntlets.
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Re: Three Monks And A Chump

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I want those street fighter portraits, link?
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Re: Three Monks And A Chump

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Zarko wrote:I want those street fighter portraits, link?
Here you go http://ge.tt/6j1LUtG/v/0?c (there are 10 portraits)
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