murkscale wrote:Wait, so spiders and ogres aren't cliché but dragons are? I'm sorry but there's a huge ass difference inbetween iconic and cliché and if you've got a dungeon there sure as hell should be at least one giant flying lizard with a thing for hoarding shinies in it.
when i hear "dragon", i think of cheesy D&D cartoony animals with no mystique left to them, just like Elves. fantasy is positively drowning in dragons and elves, and the very last thing a unique setting like LoG needs is to be associated with mainstream campy fantasy.
spiders can't be cliche any more than the existence of gravity and breathable atmosphere can. they may be commonly encountered creatures throughout fantasy and non-fiction, but that doesn't make them cliche. the tunnel ogres may be the closest thing to cliche in LoG, but they fall more on the side of the spectrum where spiders are. they aren't icons with a mainstream interpretation and mythos smothering them, and their appearance in the game is perfectly fine as valid monsters with no more importance than the others.
so no, the spiders and ogres in LoG are not cliche, but dragons would definitely be. there's a reason AH put in insectoids, minotaurs and lizardmen instead of elves, dwarves and halflings...